Welcome back to Second Nature, Living with Ecological Grief. Host Ashlee Cunsolo and guest Dr. Deborah McGregor critique the technocratic focus in climate research, highlighting the underrepresentation of women, Indigenous, Black, and global South communities. They stress the importance of integrating Indigenous knowledge and holistic approaches over simplistic, technocratic solutions. Dr. McGregor introduces the Anishinaabe concept of living the "good life," emphasizing reciprocal relationships and well-being for humans and the environment, contrasting with current Western priorities that often ignore deeper issues like oppression and injustice. 

The discussion urges the recognition of diverse perspectives and the inclusion of emotional and narrative experiences of Indigenous people to address climate crises effectively. Dr. McGregor's insights promote a transformative ethics focusing on mutual respect with nature, stressing that true solutions lie in developing deeper, reciprocal relationships with the Earth rather than external technological fixes.

Watch on Youtube: https://youtu.be/ey1-pLAlbvs 

Interview recorded on: 03/01/2024 -- Welcome to Second Nature, a podcast about living with ecological grief. In each episode, Dr. Ashlee Cunsolo takes us on a deeply personal journey about planetary loss, and what we love, what we have lost, and how we move forward. Through a series of engaging, thought-provoking, and moving conversations with incredible guests from around the world, Second Nature is an invitation to come together to share stories of loss, love, despair, and joy, as we learn how to live with – and embrace – ecological grief and mourning.