In this conversation, CeeJay Barnaby interviews Christophe Cox, CEO of Apopo, an organization that trains rats to detect landmines and tuberculosis. They discuss the origins of Apopo, its impact on communities affected by landmines, the innovative use of rats in healthcare, and the future projects aimed at furthering their humanitarian mission. The conversation highlights the importance of public support and the unique role of these 'hero rats' in saving lives and transforming communities.